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Students: Please email [[User:Mankoff|Ken Mankoff]] the Lat/Long of your institution and study area by the end of the day.  (You can click 'email this user' in the lower left toolbox from his user page.
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KML file of student institutions and field sites: [[Media:ISSMS.kmz.zip]]
  
 
==Roundtable 1: Study regions==
 
==Roundtable 1: Study regions==
* Antarctica. 6 students:  [[User:Hoffman|Matt]], , [[User:Adamc,|Adam]],...
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*Antarctica. 6 students:  [[User:Hoffman|Matt]], [[User:Adamc,|Adam]], [[User:mankoff|Ken Mankoff]], [[User:Fseifert|Fiona Seifert]]...
 
* Greenland. 6 students: [[User:Kpoinar|Kristin]], [[User:meierbtw|Toby]]...
 
* Greenland. 6 students: [[User:Kpoinar|Kristin]], [[User:meierbtw|Toby]]...
* Mountain glaciers. 4 students:  
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* Mountain glaciers. 4 students: [[User:Suren|Surendra]], [[User:Mauro|Mauro]], [[User:Eeburke1|Erin]],[[User:Wangyuan|yuanxiang]]..
* Other/Global. 2 students:
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* Other/Global. 2 students: [[User:flocolleoni|Flo]], [[User:Jeremyfyke|Jeremy]]
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'''Greenland'''
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* We need better communication between modellers & data-collectors, with feedback.
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'''Antarctica'''
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* Basal processes are the hot ticket.
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'''Mountain glaciers'''
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* We Heart Valley Glaciers
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* Simple models are all you need....... for a valley glacier
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'''Other/Global'''
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* Is it just sea level change that's of interest to glaciologists? 
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* Are rapid changes large changes?
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* Surprise: surges
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Possible discussion questions:
 
Possible discussion questions:
 
* What questions are the climate change community pressuring us to answer?
 
* What questions are the climate change community pressuring us to answer?
 
* What do we know now that would have been a big surprise 10 years ago?
 
* What do we know now that would have been a big surprise 10 years ago?
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* How important is field data to your research? If you could collect any field data/observations to progress your work, what would it/they be?
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* What is the holy grail of our subfield?
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* What areas should we avoid trying to answer at this time due to complexity?
 
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==Roundtable 2: Background==
 
==Roundtable 2: Background==
* Geology. 5 students: [[User:meierbtw,|Toby]],...
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* Geology. 5 students: [[User:meierbtw,|Toby]], [[User:flocolleoni,|Flo]],[[User:Jeremyfyke,|Jeremy]]..
* Physics. 5 students: [[User:adamC,|Adam]], [[User:Kpoinar|Kristin]]...
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* Physics. 5 students: [[User:Adamc,|Adam]], [[User:Kpoinar|Kristin]], [[User:Mauro|Mauro]],[[User:Wangyuan|yuanxiang]]...
* Math(s). 4 students:
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* Math(s). 4 students: [[User:Fseifert|Fiona Seifert]],  [[User:Eeburke1|Erin]]
* Engineering/CS/Other. 4 students: [[User:Hoffman|Matt]], ...
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* Engineering/CS/Other. 4 students: [[User:Hoffman|Matt]], [[User:mankoff|Ken Mankoff]], [[User:Suren|Surendra]]...
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'''Geology'''
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* There exist opportunities to work in the private sector
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* Taking classes, reading papers outside the discipline (e.g. math(s), physics)
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* Flexibility!
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'''Engineering/CS/Other'''
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* Interesting research is at the boundary of disciplines, but the hiring is at the core... one's career is a balance game (NICE)
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* Building personal relationships
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* Predisposed to become pigeonholed as Endnote teachers / website writers
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'''Physics'''
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* Best background to have for glaciology, we have no regrets.
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* Glaciology is presently a tiny field compared to its importance / focus on by IPCC
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* Planetary ice is a new frontier that might blow up
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* Building personal relationships with which to muddle through funding
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* Career moves: at each transition, choose a new problem, institution, and even country.
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'''Math(s)'''
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* Math is great, but often weak in converting glacial processes into equations.
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* We may have a disconnect between equations & physical space
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* Dealing with the naysayers: fearmongering vs. reassurance
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Possible discussion questions:
 
Possible discussion questions:
 
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* Given your background in XX, what have you done/would you do outside of your area of expertise to make yourself a better cryosphere scientist?
 
* Given your background in XX, what have you done/would you do outside of your area of expertise to make yourself a better cryosphere scientist?
 
* Why have we come to glaciology, over the other careers / topics available to people with our background?
 
* Why have we come to glaciology, over the other careers / topics available to people with our background?
* Glaciology is 'hot' now... how hot will it stay?  What are possible exit ramps once it cools down?
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* Glaciology is 'hot' now... how hot will it stay?  What are possible exit ramps once it cools down
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* Will data gaps between the current and next generation of satellite sensors affect what work can be done?
 
* What should we do immediately post-PhD?  travel, stay at home institution, ship off to postdoc abroad, ...
 
* What should we do immediately post-PhD?  travel, stay at home institution, ship off to postdoc abroad, ...
 
* How can I continue to deal with people who say, "Oh, you study glaciers, huh? Better hurry up, hohnk hohnk"
 
* How can I continue to deal with people who say, "Oh, you study glaciers, huh? Better hurry up, hohnk hohnk"
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* Are there areas of cryosphere study that are better studied with strong math tools?
 
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==Other Ways to Sort Ourselves==
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==Feedback on the exercise==
Seneca - notes from yesterday?
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* Interaction led to more learning than 1-by-1 speaking to the classroom
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* Making connections is important to doing work
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* "Yes" - Jesse
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* "Great" - Christina
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* "You're a jerk(?)" - Olga
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* Future workshop: turn into one afternoon session, more time to delve into issues
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* Icebreakers (Jesse's blocks/dinosaurs) in groups organized by background might be interesting and telling
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* Group randomization / integration: learn outside your discipline.  Add a third "grab bag" session for this.
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* One-on-one interaction
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* This exercise could have used more detailed instructions, facilitation within discussion groups
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==Other Ways to Sort Ourselves==
  
==Lists of valuable skills/knowledge learned, connections made, etc.?==
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Latest revision as of 22:57, 10 August 2009

KML file of student institutions and field sites: Media:ISSMS.kmz.zip

Contents

Roundtable 1: Study regions

Greenland

  • We need better communication between modellers & data-collectors, with feedback.

Antarctica

  • Basal processes are the hot ticket.

Mountain glaciers

  • We Heart Valley Glaciers
  • Simple models are all you need....... for a valley glacier

Other/Global

  • Is it just sea level change that's of interest to glaciologists?
  • Are rapid changes large changes?
  • Surprise: surges


Possible discussion questions:

  • What questions are the climate change community pressuring us to answer?
  • What do we know now that would have been a big surprise 10 years ago?
  • How important is field data to your research? If you could collect any field data/observations to progress your work, what would it/they be?
  • What is the holy grail of our subfield?
  • What areas should we avoid trying to answer at this time due to complexity?

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Roundtable 2: Background

Geology

  • There exist opportunities to work in the private sector
  • Taking classes, reading papers outside the discipline (e.g. math(s), physics)
  • Flexibility!

Engineering/CS/Other

  • Interesting research is at the boundary of disciplines, but the hiring is at the core... one's career is a balance game (NICE)
  • Building personal relationships
  • Predisposed to become pigeonholed as Endnote teachers / website writers

Physics

  • Best background to have for glaciology, we have no regrets.
  • Glaciology is presently a tiny field compared to its importance / focus on by IPCC
  • Planetary ice is a new frontier that might blow up
  • Building personal relationships with which to muddle through funding
  • Career moves: at each transition, choose a new problem, institution, and even country.

Math(s)

  • Math is great, but often weak in converting glacial processes into equations.
  • We may have a disconnect between equations & physical space
  • Dealing with the naysayers: fearmongering vs. reassurance



Possible discussion questions:

  • Given your background in XX, what have you done/would you do outside of your area of expertise to make yourself a better cryosphere scientist?
  • Why have we come to glaciology, over the other careers / topics available to people with our background?
  • Glaciology is 'hot' now... how hot will it stay? What are possible exit ramps once it cools down?
  • Will data gaps between the current and next generation of satellite sensors affect what work can be done?
  • What should we do immediately post-PhD? travel, stay at home institution, ship off to postdoc abroad, ...
  • How can I continue to deal with people who say, "Oh, you study glaciers, huh? Better hurry up, hohnk hohnk"
  • Are there areas of cryosphere study that are better studied with strong math tools?

...

Feedback on the exercise

  • Interaction led to more learning than 1-by-1 speaking to the classroom
  • Making connections is important to doing work
  • "Yes" - Jesse
  • "Great" - Christina
  • "You're a jerk(?)" - Olga
  • Future workshop: turn into one afternoon session, more time to delve into issues
  • Icebreakers (Jesse's blocks/dinosaurs) in groups organized by background might be interesting and telling
  • Group randomization / integration: learn outside your discipline. Add a third "grab bag" session for this.
  • One-on-one interaction
  • This exercise could have used more detailed instructions, facilitation within discussion groups


Other Ways to Sort Ourselves

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